How the Monster Hunter Community Reacted to Longsword Buffs in MH Rise Sunbreak
How the Monster Hunter Community Reacted to Longsword Buffs in MH Rise Sunbreak
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What do you think about the new moves Longsword is getting in Sunbreak?
@SteakSavoureux I will concede that it’s moved up in the tier list. It’s been awhile since I’ve played Rise because I finished all of the quests awhile back and haven’t been on recently. I still don’t think that the LS is OP but I will admit that it’s sitting at the top of the Melee bracket right now so for that I apologize.
@SteakSavoureux I’ve been playing this series longer than you’ve probably been alive. I know what I’m talking about when it comes to MH and especially when it comes to Blademaster. You probably don’t even know what BDS or Claw Day are.
@Eldritch Artificer But it is ! It’s top 4 after all the ranged weapons
@Eldritch Artificer How delusional can you be ? Just look at speedrunning results ! For real LS is op, much more than any other melee weapons in any other game. You’re just lying with your pretended experience.
@Valosken Speedruns are indicative of what the weapon can do and how fast it can do it. Bias and opinion doesn’t factor into it. It just comes down to the fact that longsword is not putting out higher damage than a lot of other melee weapons and it really shouldn’t be seen as OP.
longsword gang stay winning
So is the game gonna be harder for lance mains?
AWESOME
Capcom be like, “fuck it, put yamato in sunbreak”
L’est dance
All my hopes for Lance, utterly crushed.
All weapons are equal. Some are just more equal than others
I was a HH main before, but now I only believe in LS supremacy
what if the harvest moon range is reduced to 1 meter? it kinda reminds me of nobunaga in hunter x hunter
Meanwhile charge blade mains crying out in the corner having their weapon killed
Including me
Gunlancers: “First time?”
I didn’t realize the LS was that unpopular and weak it needed this buff
copium for CB and lance
Lmao i just love looking at the comment section of the LS reveal for sunbreak and everyone is crying
After succumb into pit of turd in MH4U, LS now rise at the top of the MH series.
Ittoryu Iai: Shishi Sonson!
At this Point I dont care, I just want to decimate Monsters in solo hunts
Hold up, where are the sword beams and the levitation spell?
*_I A M T H E S T O R M T H A T I S A P P R O A C H I N G_*
U can tell what weapon gives Capcom a chubbie
The MH community right now in a nutshell
You know that weapon? Yeah, that one. The one most fans said was too powerful?
Well we gave it an ability that doubles its damage. And also stops the power gage from decreasing.
Have fun!
Weebs >>> giga weebs
Man they didnt have to drop that trailer right next to lance to show how it got dragged x_x. Fellow Lance mains maybe next MH installment we will get something cool XD.
LS changing from easy mode to baby mode.
cool i didnt think Rise would enable autoplay
MH fans are crybabies who don’t understand the mechanics. Big news
Harvest Moon is a thinly veiled nerf, you NEED it to do the same damage as before
And you know what’s the saddest part of it all? they don’t give a fuck. even if everyone complains, they’ll just release it anyway and fuck it.
Rooommm
No. That’s Trafalgar Law’s ROOM.
Wow longsword now has great sword charge but faster. Nice
4 Harvest Moon LS users in each fight that’s what the meta is gonna be.
Charge blade was once a weapon that could split the sky. Now Longsword looks to be the one to split the universe in two.
Really annoyed at the blatant favouritism here, not just speaking as a charge blade main, but also a lance main.
WHAT! No judgment cut for special sheath alternative, no doppelganger to mirror your attacks effectively doubling your damage, and no summoned swords to attack at long range?? C’MON MAN, LS needs the buff badly.
Lance: pls
BADLY
Christ, that LS even looks like something out of Rising
yup
Damn japanese and their katanas
Law is doing some weird shit in Sunbreak
I don’t think anybody realizes that the Charge Slash is actually the Crescent Slash From Frontier for Long Sword. It’s Chargeable and Does Massive Damage.
0:43 Laughs in *Blood-Shed*
Honestly people complaining about LS are just annoying now. It’s not a PVP game, meta doesn’t matter as long as you have fun. That is the point of gaming is it not?
@Deee yeah ik, and I get that it will always be how the world works. Just sad to see people losing their interest in mh.
@HTFS yr always gonna have peeps complain it be like that the shit crooked
It feels like this community always moves in to the next big thing to moan about. When capcom made wyvern riding more optional, they moved on to complaining about to something like magma almudron taking agnaktors place. Which still may not be the case!
it not
The more “edgy” the movement is, the more powerful it is, poor spear left the crumbs
Though you may go to another weapon, you’ll forever be part of the Lance Brotherhood.
I think you mean MH6/the next mainline game, there won’t be any world 2, capcom doesn’t make direct sequels to their monster hunter games
All I can say is that LS is staying as the most popular weapon.
I love the fact that Capcom finally realized the Longsword was absurdly hard to use in World and Iceborne, and still wasn’t as good as the Greatsword. It’s time for a high skill ceiling to be rewarded with power. No one is stopping you from using a Longsword – you’re just mad that the Longsword is currently beating the Greatsword and Charge Blade and Dual Blades on the speedrunning charts. (Because that’s the only “tier list” that the game actually has, there is no tier list for 1 hour missions lol)
Every single weapon reveal had great new additions. Again, people just think the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. People bitching have no idea what the number values are on more than half these abilities, they just moan because it’s easier to complain than to think critically.
BTW the numbers on ISS are way lower than they are in base Rise, but since 90% of haters never used a Longsword for more than an hour, you of course don’t know that. Stay mad, haters.
@linda Vance I do agree with the first part, without the numbers we cannot know for sure if every moves are going to be either good or not however unless that Lance’s shield dash dish out decent damage with the block for example, as we saw it dealt blunt damages it is for sure going to be bad and as we saw from Capcom way of recording these trailers, they insist a lot to show when a move is dealing good damage and will be used to mainly deal damage (we see that with the monster flinching or toppling) or when a move is just a practical one and here it just didn’t seem to be much of an interesting one. Same goes for that CB wirebug counter, it doesn’t deal damage nor fills up phials like CPP so the only thing that could make it at least interesting would be if it granted a buff, but they were nothing said about that. So it’s rather safe to assume that the numbers won’t change much things here, but we’re still not 100% percent sure of course. As for the 2nd part you’re assuming people think in one way but assuming that they do just make you nothing else than another person assuming things. Plus I really don’t see what it has to do here, same for what you said in the end. Why would you say that CB is not important because it was according to you better than LS in previous games? It’s nothing more than irrelevant to the topic.
@Shy_Guy_Sean Did you really just imply that the LS doesn’t have a high skill ceiling?
@Undertaker I think you’re making a lot of assumptions about how “good” or “bad” a skill is before you actually get to use it.
Numbers mean a lot. We can clearly see the numbers on ISS counter got nerfed. Yay? On the other hand, you’re assuming shit about Charge Blade and Lance when you have no idea what the numbers are going to be like.
I’m pretty sure the Longsword could have gotten NOTHING but the Swap skill and people would be moaning about how the Longsword has Sakura Slash and Helmbreaker available at the same time – even though the Swap skill is universal. People are just assuming the absolute best (or worse, depending on your perspective) about the Longsword, while pretending that “their” weapon got shit on.
Besides, I don’t want to hear any complaining about the Charge Blade, when it was better than the Longsword throughout the entire lifespan of World/Iceborne and took less skill to boot. Absurd.
Did you really say high skill?
@what the damage one could be nice, but the guard advance thing..
Fun fact they are getting roasted after releasing lance and longsword video at the same time.
Long sword is basically that favorite child in your family lmao :V…
even me who main LS since gen 2 start to think yea this is too much
Back then before Rise came out, wasn’t the devs talking about wanting players to try out different weapons? If so, this isn’t exactly motivating players to branch out if they keep wanting to give love to one weapon while neglecting the others essentially.
Yeah idk bro…. Coming from someone who has only maimed one weapon per each monster Hunter since I first picked it up for PSV this is the first MH where I actually use ALL the weapons
That’s what I’ve been saying, Rise and Sunbreak is great, they encourage people to try out different weapons unless you’re using LS
Idk man, this thing motivate me to try long sword, so…
@Le Commenter Probably because your main weapon got nerfed and you wanted to avoid just becoming a longsword user.
@BarryBlu Wow, what a magnificent increase/s
Do another one for Lance please .
4U CB main here. What the actual shit did they do to my boy
Oh how the charge blade has fallen from grace, once a god now nothing.
I love it ! It’s getting more and more stylish to play the weapon and I personally don’t really care if it’s broken or not, I main multiple weapons cuz of how they feel in my hand, or how cool they are, not cuz of the meta or whatever (even tho I feel bad for some weapons getting kinda forgotten by Capcom)
Oh and I love how much people are pissed at it lmao, it is so funny to me
@Le Commenter but what about the challenge
@Zinogri yeah also if you’re playing online no one cares what weapon you play and if solo speeds are compared by weapon not overall. So if lance kills it in 5 and ls kills it in 3 then it doesnt matter ls killed if faster. If i ever post speeds online imma make a lance playlist just for the salt complaints
Yeah for sure ! People tend to focus too much on how balanced or broken weapons are and maybe forget to have fun, this isn’t a competitive game (as for the flinch problem, I don’t believe it’s the LS users’ fault to trip people as much as i dont believe it’s the Hammer users’ to make people go swoosh in the air, this is something Capcom should’ve removed ages ago)
May as well add a Vergil layered armor at this point honestly.
Lol
fun fact I actually thought of adding Zoro andOden clips to the video but Toei is really good at giving copyright strikes
Zoro or Oden too
Actually NO… btw Japanese capcom’s video has 3x the dislikes and commenting are blocked.
The community is more like:
“Errr… I’ve been trying to believe the favoritism was an exaggeration but come on!!!”
Funny thing now every content creator is being either a total shill or going the “I have LS main friends, ok? It’s not hate but…”
It’s understandable. It isn’t news that when one make their gaming hobby your job and now you need the hype train.
I think they’ve always disabled comments, but I agree that the Japanese community is not exactly happy about this either.
@CryoJnik the half assed Wyvern Stake is neat and the slicing damage thing could be nice, but its not infinite gauge better counter LS nice.
@jitteryzeitgeist Switch Axe, Bow, HBG all also got some pretty good stuff. At least those are the ones I remember off the top of my head.
@DarkHero I don’t care about the balancing. They didn’t even *try* to make an appearance of putting any effort into anything other than LS.
I’ve come to accept that the MH team fails at balancing the game properly. I’ve addressed these concerns in the past ( and will do so again probably in another video tomorrow or the day after).
Well, time to make a Raiden character
This would be cool if I knew how to counter
practice
so wrong ppl dislike that they focus even more on countering. just look at the dislike ratio on the video and if u cant see it, its 50/50
@Some Guy based
Monster Gear Rising
All Ive seen is people crying and bitching as per usual
The honest truth is that 69% of all MH players are LS mains!
Ofc that trailer is gonna be the best cause they are the best.
Charge blade: You know I was God once.
@Le Commenter Meanwhile, Gunlance has been constantly getting nerfed harder than Mercy from Overwatch for no reason
Indeed, CB once was God in 4u. What a glorious time. I was a rebel and did elemental CB, tho
@lakevapor then we shall both lament the pain that our weapons have suffered
what about my boy insect glaive
I remember the good old days!
God i love longsword
When I saw it all I could do was sigh. Longsword hardly needed buffs. Especially of this calibre.
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
PROVOKING BLACK CLOUDS IN ISOLATION
Haven’t played LS but might have to for the meme
@DarkHero I still need to figure out what weapon I want to main in Sunbreak. Rise was my first MH game so I’ve messed with a large chunk of the weapons but I’m still not sure
for the meme is about the best excuse one can have
As a LS main in MH, I can concur one thing….
RULES OF NATURE!!!!!!
(And yes, even I think this is ridiculous!)
100% anime weeb cringe fcking yuck.
I do like were they add to LS but remove the effect of the harvest moon making your spirit gauge decrease while in it.
@Nebula The idea that could be the possibility of an oil that works like protective polish or razor sharp to make elemental weapons even better makes me quite excited for the future, but knowing how Capcom hates fun I have already breaced myself for the inevitable disappointment of having to sharpen after every perfect rush.
@PhazonMercenary god I’m so excited for it, I really hope there’s other oil options too but even just destroyer is awesome af
@ArcticWolfGod I mean, I agree. They may not be buffs. I’m speaking under the guise that they are and I did not make that clear so that’s my fault. Just because I’m talking about longsword doesn’t mean I don’t think other stuff needs mentioning though, and sticky shots is definitely one of those things
I’m not referencing that they make it fun to use though that wouldn’t make sense but it definitely does play a role in longswords popularity. The true complaints here are that something like longsword still gets huge changes whereas for example gunlance and lance seem to be getting the short end as usual
@Nebula People complaining about their weapon getting shafted (rightly so, like the CB and Lance, my condolences) meanwhile I’m over here throwing a one man rave because literally just one oil came back for the SnS.
i think long sword might end up being the most weapon
@Syahburei When you needed to actually manage the bar
The LS is one of the weapons ever made…
@Syahburei back when the only ls players were just interested in it or meming
Back in 4u where its the worst weapon mechanic wise where you cant even refill the red gauge back to red. Its still the most used weapon.
Ls is definitely one of, if not THE weapons of monster hunter
Longsword hunters should know that we who main other melee weapons do not hate LS mains. (maybe hammer mains do hate because some refuse flinch free) We hate that developers only get creative, buff and introduce fun ways to play with the LS, leaving other 10 melee weapons behind.
You know my beloved CB was very strong once when it freshly debuted, not broken like the Rise iteration of LS however but yes it was very strong, even then it couldn’t hold candle to how ranged weapons were busted, (ranged weapons were always busted) developers quite literally nerfed it to the ground in the expansion, no balancing, no tuning down, just straight nerfed it to the ground in the next game as well, didn’t elaborate and left it like that. CB never quite recovered ever since after that and developers are convinced that if they give it anything more it will break the game…. Have you seen the size of the phial hitbox in Rise for pity’s sake? It’s smaller than the squirrel nuts, we asked and we kept asking but developers didn’t fix that. Instead they gave us another trash silkbind that is inferior to CPP. These are sad times to be a CB main, i think i could speak for the Gunlance and Lance as well. They have no covid excuse for lack of everything in the expansion, if they can make LS fun, why not other weapons? They can always delete all the weapons and make MH games with LS as the only weapon with this kind of shi+y and lazy behavior.
I’ve played ls since mhfu, where that one was clunky af btw. i would say its one of the easiest to learn weapons. however, one thing is misunderstood by a lot of people.. this weapon isnt op af only because you are learning the basics of it way faster. it took me like years and a lot of time in the other games to perform the way i do these days and there are still a lot of things which i can even learn as one of the oldest mh players. it feels discriminatory sometimes how some players act tbh.. some of em kicked me from the lobby because they dont like ls, also i got insulted a lot of times and beeing called a noob just because i play this weapon. dont get me wrong here.. i don’t begrudge the other weapons to get cool new things as well, but all of that isnt a reason to act like a scumbag (dont meant anyone here, just experiences i had elsewhere). i wasnt used to that before and always seen the mh community pretty chill and friendly in the older games. anything of that aside, its pretty much true what ya said. the only weapons i’ve noticed positive are ls, gs, ds, hh.. everything else feels really meh to play compared to that, but thats just my opinion. the other types also need much more love
Sorry I don’t slot flinch free, that stamina thief is a requirement.
4U was by the mainline World team
CB was definitely broken in 4U.
@Ravemaster620 it’s always during the Portable team’s games so like Gen/XX/Rise. For some reason they always hit the CB and GL with weird new mechanics that don’t add any DPS or massive nerfs
I’m starting to think Capcom is playing favorites
*Sad lance main noises*
@Stephen John not only those. Despite playing different weapons, Hammer was my absolute bread and butter weapon. In Rise I dropped that weapon, because spamming Impact Crater (with a terrible hitbox detection) got boring pretty fast. The copy of HH spinning won’t change that.
You know, I think they have been dropping hints at which is their favourite, but I’m stil unsure.
@Stephen John IG main here dropping by to say we also exist
At least they’re admitting it lol more than what moms are capable of
Me: No, Raiden. In fact, let’s end this, here and now.
Raiden: Oh okay, let’s do this!
Me: I will swiftly put your tale to an end!
Raiden: It ends here!
Me: Okay, let’s tango!
*Epic music starts.*
*fight begins.*
Flinch free still takes up a slot in all of my loadouts. You can’t escape from all the longsword hit boxes covering the entire map.
@DarkHero I’m sorry but, if I can’t golf swing s weeb AnImOo long sword main to mars with my hammer, then LIFE IS NOT WORTH LIVING.
@Byron Barrientos it might seem silly and annoying, but it is an aspect of interaction that makes the experience more believable and offers interesting interactions between players.
Amen
@Byron Barrientos Tripping used to be a mechanic to teach positioning back when the game was slower, but now with so many hitboxes flying around I’d say it has overstayed its welcome.
Motivated/10
I main switch axe and I loved the new stuff so much